- We’re been such HUGE fans of the great Paul Dini and his fantastic contributions to the world of comics and television. He’s also made a couple memorable appearances in some View Askew flicks as well, and remains a great friend — We’ve got fond memories of hanging out with Dini and his sketchbook on the set of “Jersey Girl†way back when, and still think his line read in “Strike Back†is one of the greatest. So, let’s let our special correspondant Chris Graves take over with his interview with this great dude, who we look forward to seeing again in the future: Mr. Paul Dini!
Mr. Dini was also a writer for the Clerks animated series (in which he also provided the voice of George Lucas in the courtroom episode), and he and his wife Misty Lee have a series of comedic interview pieces they do for QuickStopEntertainment.com called Monkey Talk.
Kevin Smith/View Askew aside, the man was highly responsible for the success of Batman: The Animated Series throughout the 90’s and creating the character of Harley Quinn. He even took over as head writer on Detective Comics (which first introduced Batman in 1939) for DC. He was a writer for classic cartoons such as Fat Albert, Ewoks, Droids, He-Man, G.I. Joe, The Incredible Hulk, Transformers, Tiny Toon Adventures, Superman…And now he’s a writer and story editor for the tv phenomenon known as LOST, quite possibly our new favorite show after last season’s finale (watch out Galactica!).
BY CHRIS GRAVES
CHRIS GRAVES: For those who do not know, what is your background and how were you introduced to the world of View Askew and Kevin Smith?
PAUL DINI: It was October 1994. I was eating breakfast at LA’s Farmer’s Market and paging through the LA Reader when I read a good review of a flick that just opened called CLERKS. I had heard the film did very well earlier in the year at Sundance and that its director, Kevin Smith, was somewhat of a geek. I had planned to buy cds that day at the local Virgin Megastore which happened to be attached to the theatre where CLERKS was showing. I went, saw the picture and laughed my ass off. About four years later I met Kevin through my friend, SEINFELD and CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM writer David Mandel. It turned out we had a lot of admiration for each other’s work and we’ve been friends ever since.
CG: I’m from Massachusetts and I know you went to both Harvard and Emerson College in Boston. What was it about Emerson that attracted you to the school and what did you major in? How was the Boston experience like for you?
PD: I love Boston. My dad’s entire family is from there so I feel very close ties to the city. I majored creative writing at Emerson but did a little of everything — acting, radio production, animation, and took drawing classes through Boston’s Museum School. I had to take a science at Emerson and wanted zoology, but they didn’t have a class in that. So I audited some zoology classes at Harvard and haunted their museum of Comparative Zoology for about a year.
CG: You started out as a writer on such classic cartoons as FAT ALBERT, HE-MAN, EWOKS, DROIDS, G.I. JOE and the TRANSFORMERS. As a writer, what was appealing to you about animation? How was it like working with the likes of Bill Cosby and George Lucas? Did you like working for Filmation?
PD: If you grow up loving cartoons, I think there is always a part of you that is intrigued with the idea of making them. So for me, coming just out of college and into the trenches of Saturday Morning TV production was a good way to get one’s feet wet in the business. Besides, back in the early 80’s lots of guys who later went onto have notable careers in animation were jobbing around from studio to studio so you met everyone and that was a good way to form friendships and make connections. Filmation was valuable for that reason alone although the cartoons themselves might not have been so memorable. As for Bill Cosby, he’d cruise in once a season for a couple days to record the voices and film the live action segments and then he’d be gone for another year. The writers might glimpse him in the recording booth, but it wasn’t like he’d sit in on any story conferences. George Lucas was much more hands on, especially in the early brainstorming on EWOKS and DROIDS. Plus we were working right there at Skywalker Ranch, so he’d be on site every day if we needed to show him a rough cut or get his input on anything.
CG: In 1989 you were hired at Warner Bros. Animation to work on TINY TOON ADVENTURES. How did you get that opportunity and what was it like working for Steven Spielberg?
PD: A writer I had known in LA, Tom Ruegger, was hired to take the creative lead at Warners on TINY TOON ADVENTURES. We were friends and had a good working relationship, so he hired me to come on board. Early on there was a fair amount of pressure as we all wanted to get the show right, but I quickly learned Steven has a deep love for cartoons as well as an encyclopedic knowledge of them. We all spoke the same language so the show got much easier to do the longer we worked together.
CG: BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES brought Batman back to television in top form. It would also mark the beginning of a long association between yourself and the character. Was this a dream project for you? And do you have a favorite episode?
PD: My favorite episode is probably “Heart of Ice.†There were other episodes that we did that might have had better action sequences or better acting or funnier bits, but that first Mr. Freeze story was the one that told me Batman would work as a drama and it really set the tone for the rest of the episodes I’d write.
CG: Besides animation, you’re also known for your work in comic books, including your own creation, JINGLE BELLE. In 2006, you became the head writer for DETECTIVE COMICS, the very title responsible for premiering Batman in 1939. This must’ve been a crowning achievement of sorts for you? Were you always a fan of comics? DC Comics has had the opportunity to work with you time and time again, but has Marvel Comics ever approached you to take on one of their characters?
PD: I was always into comics, whether they were funny animals like Uncle Scrooge or Pogo, or more traditional superhero fare like Batman or Fantastic Four. We subscribed to three newspapers when I was growing up, so I read every comic strip, and I would devour every book on the comic book rack in our neighborhood drug store, though back then I was more the kid who read everything and bought next to nothing, much to the ire of our local druggist. It was a great joy for me to return to that drug store many years later and buy the first issue I wrote of “THE BATMAN AND ROBIN ADVENTURES†off that same stand. I think that after all that time the druggist was just happy I was buying ANYTHING.
CG: Shortly after the release of BATMAN AND ROBIN in 1997, there was talk of using your character Harley Quinn from BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES, as a possible villain for the next film. Is it true that you once pitched Warner Bros. an idea for the fifth live action Batman movie, prior to the development of BATMAN BEGINS? Do you think Kevin Smith would make a good candidate for writing and directing a Dark Knight feature?
PD: Warners initially approached Boaz Yakin about writing and directing a BATMAN BEYOND feature and he very graciously asked Alan Burnett and myself to join him on the project. Beyond never made it farther than a first draft script, then Boaz left the project to do another film. This left the project with Alan and myself. The studio asked us if we wanted to continue with BATMAN BEYOND (which was kind of losing steam at that point) or if we wanted to take a stab at developing another regular Batman film. We shot around all sorts of idea with them, including a Ra’s Al Ghul story and a Batman VS Superman take, but ultimately they decided to just pay us for the work we had done and put Batman back into the cave for another five years. Would I like to see Kevin take a shot at a Batman flick? Sure. I thought his Superman draft was pretty good, though by his own admission, he claims to be more of a Batman guy. I’d love to read Kevin’s take on Gotham City.
CG: In 2000, CLERKS: THE ANIMATED SERIES aired twice on ABC before being canceled What was your initial reaction to this and what did you think of the final product in general? Did you write any plot lines or material for future episodes?
PD: I thought the show initially was great and if it had been given a chance to flourish, it would have just gotten better and better. The designs worked nicely for TV animation and the writing was very funny. It was a real crime that ABC/Disney gave it only those two airings (in the middle of summer, no less) and then yanked it. If the show had continued, it’s possible I might have contributed more to it, it’s hard to say as everything was wrapped up so quickly. I know that every now and then Kevin talks about doing new animated versions of the characters, maybe as a direct to DVD feature. I hope he gets around to it because I would like to see those characters again.
CG: Have you ever thought about directing a film based on your material?
PD: JINGLE BELLE has been through the development wringer with other people and thus far nothing has happened. Now that I have the rights back, I’m thinking the only way to get it done is to do it myself. We’ll see what happens.
CG: I’ve read that some of your hobbies include being an amateur magician and enjoying Cryptozoology. If these things are true, could you elaborate on them, because I’m very intrigued by these subjects?
PD: My wife Misty Lee is the expert on magic, and for any elaboration on that theme, I can direct you to her website, www.mistylee.com. Cryptozoology, the study of hidden animals or those not yet recognized by science, has been a lifelong interest of mine. A lot of our planet is still unexplored and while the reality of going into a jungle and bringing back a living dinosaur is pretty remote, I think there are still plenty of mammals, birds and insects waiting to be discovered. I’ve been around the world twice and every time I’m in a remote area I try to spend as much time as I can photographing the native wildlife and talking to locals about any lesser-known creatures that might live nearby. Pretty much every culture has their share of monster and bogeyman stories, but every now and then I’ve heard accounts or seen evidence that points to creatures unknown to science or animals once thought to be extinct that have reestablished themselves. That’s very exciting to me.
CG: Can you tell me about MONKEY TALK, which can be seen at www.quickstopentertainment.com?
PD: MONKEY TALK is a series of short interview pieces I do with Misty and whatever good-natured guests we can get to sit in the hot seat. It was envisioned as a program where I would interview interesting people in movies, animation, comics and TV, only to have the proceedings interrupted by our incorrigible sock monkey “son†Rashy. Rashy has proven so popular that we’re now filming a series of his own short adventures. Those will be showing up online as well as in other venues very soon.
CG: What is your favorite View Askew / Kevin Smith film?
PD: Gotta give the prize to CHASING AMY. It’s a really nice mix of laughs and tears and has some terrific performances by Ben (Affleck), Jason (Lee) and Joey (Adams). It also doesn’t go the predictable route and have Holden and Alyssa run to each others arms at the end. Just because a flick has a bittersweet ending doesn’t make it any less of a romance.
CG: And finally, what was your reaction like when you found out Kevin and his wife Jen named their daughter after your character, Harley Quinn?
PD: I thought it was sweet. A little different, but very touching.
Thanks so much to Chris for another fine Q&A, and to Paul for his valuable time — We know he’s a busy guy! Here’s hoping to see him back working some writing magic on LOST next year, and we’d sure dig seeing that Jingle Belle flick get off the ground, as well. Thanks guys.

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