Eugene Hernandez: Its funny, you’ve been the poster boy for American indie film, through its high point and low points. I think that may explain some of the critics.

Kevin Smith: “I mean, lets be honest, the only indie film I made was “Clerks.”

Everything else somebody paid for. In fact, everything else a studio paid for, with the exception of “Zack and Miri” which was the Weinstein Company. Every interview I do I’d be like, ‘You keep saying indie filmmaker, its just not…’

Say cult. Say something. But, you know, it’s not something where you try to run from it. I don’t mind, but it just sets you up for people to be disappointed. Like, ‘I thought you were an indie filmmaker? That’s supposed to mean something.’ I’m like, ‘Well, I mean, I made ‘Mallrats’ too, I told you by the second film it was going to be a bumpy ride.’

I’m just glad it’s still a ride.

Eugene, ’94 it started. Now I’m 16 years in and it’s a cool job where you’re allowed to express yourself and that’s kinda of why I got into it in the first place. But, by virtue of the fact that the job has opened so many other doors it’s also opened so many other venues for me to express myself. So, like to me, the movies are great, but like SModcast is some of the most sincerely creative original, now I’m at this place in my career where I’m like, ‘Those movies suck dude, listen to SModcast, that shit’s the bomb’.

So for me, I’m just extending ways to have the conversation in case one day somebody’s like, ‘We’re not going to let you make movies anymore, you’re not good at it and obviously you don’t care about it’ or something like that. And I’ll be like ‘All right, I’ll have the conversation over here’, but for as long as they’ll let me do I’ll do it, I enjoy doing it.”

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