Archive for June 21st, 1999

Kev Goes To Bat…

June 21st, 1999 @ 12:00 am | No Comments » | Scooped by Brad & Chris

  • Yeah! It’s GREAT to see a nice long message from Kevin with his latest feelings on this whole Dogma/Catholic League thing. Like Kevin, we agree that it’s a very sad, confusing situation. We hold no ill will at all towards the Catholic faith, and neither does Kev OR the movie for that matter, yet the League continues their assault without even thinking. Is that REALLY how Catholics are taught? Being raised a Catholic and hitting church every Sunday with my family for all those years, I just don’t think so. Anyway, here’s Kev:
Do I advocate censorship? When that censorship is in the form of a violent act to silence someone a group doesn’t agree with, then absolutely. And it’s not… NOT… even in the same ballpark as pointing at a ‘Natural Born Killers’ and saying “That there movin’ pitcher makes people kill!” Holding up a work of fiction (like ‘Catcher in the Rye’) and insisting that it incites violence is like holding up a copy of ‘Playboy’ and saying it incites masturbation. ‘Tis not the book, but the hand of the book-looker that commits the act.

But there’s a fundamental difference with William Donohue’s war-like chatter in regards to ‘Dogma’. He’s not discerning the flick as a work of fiction that people shouldn’t lend much credence to. He’s maintaining that it’s out and out blasphemy – and worse, he’s selling this to a wide, disparate group of the faithful. Their reactions may manifest themselves in postcards that say they disagree with ‘Dogma’ and urge us to reconsider releasing the film (of which there are many), or threats of violence against anyone remotely involved with the film (of which there are also many).

For anyone to point to the League and maintain that if anyone gets hurt over this movie, the League is going to be held responsible is NOT the same thing as some conservatives maintaining that Hollywood is to blame for Columbine. They’re not even in the same ballpark. Bill Donohue and the League have made their position clear from the get-go: ‘Dogma’ is a blasphemous, evil work, that they object to and want to bury. And in saying as much, he’s used questionable terms and phrases that can be (and apparently has already) construed as a call-to-arms, as it were. Now we’ve made our position clear: if anyone… ANYONE… gets hurt in the process of their protest, we’re holding Bill Donohue and the League responsible. What does that mean? It means exactly this: if anyone… ANYONE… gets hurt in the process of their protest, we’re holding Bill Donohue and the League responsible. Does that amount to much in, say, a court of law? Probably not. If someone DOES get hurt, I imagine we’d have a hard time convincing the court system that Bill Donohue and the League should be held responsible. No – this was just a private (mind you, the letter that was sent to Bill Donohue was not a public, soap-boxy affair; it was done quietly, so as not to make a grand-standing deal about it) conversation between two parties, so as to make our position understood. You’ll note that, again, no one from the Weinstein side of the equation is fanning the flames in print, looking for the war of words Bill Donohue seems to desire.

One party would just like to simply distribute its pro-faith/pro-Catholic (oh the irony in all of this) film, while the other party is rattling sabers very publicly, drumming up far more interest in the movie than it’s probably due (as the filmmaker, I’m depressed by the expectation the League is saddling this film with; folks heading into the theatre based on all the League has said about the film, hoping to kick back for two hours worth of church-bashing are going to be sadly, sadly disappointed in how devout and faith-friendly the flick actually is).

And I’ll point out that I, myself, have never been contacted by William Donohue or anyone from the Catholic League. Why not, you may ask? Because I’m the very small broom-handler in this trumped-up witch-hunt. No – Mike Eisner is the target here, folks; so much so that – even though ‘Dogma’ is no longer a Disney or Miramax film – Bill Donohue is demanding that Disney dump Miramax now. Why? What does that have to do with anything at this point? It’s about publicity, friends. You want national attention, you don’t attack the ‘Clerks’ guy; you go after the head of one of the most widely recognized corporations in the world. And even when the wind’s been taken out of the sails of your attack (ie – Dinsey no longer has anything to do with ‘Dogma’ domestically), you create some other new issue (like “Well… Disney should dump Miramax! Yeah! That’s it!”) out of something small (like a letter that quietly states our standing on the thousands of threats we’ve received, since Bill Donohue started his anti-‘Dogma’ campaign).

And in the midst of all this sad politicing, I find my faith in Christ is even stronger than it was before, and I find myself really sympathizing with the Man. Could you imagine having to watch this and all the far, far worse inanity carriedout in your name, when your central message was one of peace and tolerance? And pile upon that the fact that all the money the Catholic League will have raised for their ‘war’ against ‘Dogma’ would’ve been far, far better spent clothing and feeding the poor (and before ya’ll go pointing fingers, let me assure you – doing so only as a pre-defense, and not as any sort of glory-hounding grandstanding – that a sizeable portion of what I annually make goes toward charity and Christian acts).

A BOARDER QUESTIONS : “Oh, and an interesting thought about unlimate blame: if you believe that the Christian bible is “God’s Word” then, untimately, their God is responsible for telling his desciples to commit violence in his name. Should we sue their god?”

BACK TO KEV : No. God doesn’t have enough liquid assets. Sure, the Lord has the planet, but we already swiped that from the Almighty ages ago (or, at least, so we think).

I have no desire to sue God, thank you; nor anybody else for that matter. But the Bible is still REPUTED to be God’s words, while we’ve seen first-hand that what William Donohue has said were HIS words. I don’t see God in the pages of the New York Post, blabbing on about ‘Dogma’, or rather, Disney.

I grow weary from talking this to death. I’m not Lenny Bruce (in many, many ways), so in the future, I’d like to limit the amount of constitutional rights arguments I have to comment on. Can’t we talk about dick and fart jokes, and even the Lord instead?

Oh right – that’s what got me into this position in the first place.

Catholic League Dogma Press Conference Tomorrow…

June 21st, 1999 @ 12:00 am | No Comments » | Scooped by Adam Johnson & Rugmuncher

  • Wow. Looks like Donohue and the Catholic League have some spare time tomorrow. We suppose they hope you bring your wallets along WITH your questions. Hmmm. I wonder what all the money they’re asking for to fight Dogma is going?
PRESS CONFERENCE ON JUNE 22 ADDRESSES “DOGMA”

Tomorrow, June 22, there will be a press conference sponsored by the Catholic League that will address the league’s concerns over the upcoming movie, “Dogma,” and what will be done about it. Also to be discussed is the league’s reaction to a threatening letter it received from the attorneys for Bob and Harvey Weinstein, the Miramax co-chairmen who are putting out the film.

The press conference will take place on the 9th floor, Room 921 of the Catholic Center, 1011 First Avenue (between 55th and 56th Streets) New York, New York. It begins at 10:00 a.m. Catholic League president William Donohue will answer any questions that the media have about “Dogma.”

Wow, so Donohue is going to answer any questions that the media has about a movie he hasn’t even SEEN? This should be interesting. Hopefully everyone shows up and goes to bat for the flick.

Also, more stories saying basically the same thing as the other 10 or 20 we posted on the Dogma/Catholic League matchup have surfaced, mostly very brief. The LA Times ran a paragraph in their Calendar section, and dvd.comgot into the mix as well.

View Askew NewsBites™

June 21st, 1999 @ 12:00 am | No Comments » | Scooped by KDB, Pete Tyler, Kerisu, Paul Z, Chasing Holden, Ted Goatee & Jay

  • Mr. Showbiz has a story onChris Rock today that mentions Dogma a bit. Rock jokes about a non-existant scene, then goes on to defend the flick, like the rest of us.
  • Yet another addition to Files Askew: The ever-growing, largest collection of View Askew files on the internet! It’s the new Jay & Silent Bob Theme For Win9x! Grab it here or over at Files Askew. Thanks to Kent Jakway for a job well done.
  • Some odd news from the WRESTLING world (of all places) today. First of all, News Askew got an unlikely mention todayin a small paragraph on Kevin & Dogma over at Freakboy’s Big @$$ Wrestling Column.Okay, um, thanks. We think. Also, prowrestling.com gets wackywith a picture of Kevin in the Mallrats Batman getup with a caption reading “The Warrior Returns Again!”. Huh.
  • An unauthorized tribute site for Jason Mewes (Jay, for the unknowing) has gone online! Surf on overand check it out.
  • BOB WEINSTEIN’s Dimension Films just snapped up rights to Stephen Hunter’s not-yet-published Simon & Schuster novel, “Medal of Honor,” beating out producer Joel Silver, who very much wanted it for Warner Bros. (These wins and losses are a big deal in movie mogul-land.) The book is being develped as a movie for Ben Affleck and Billy Bob Thornton, and is the story of a World War II marine who returns from combat and is recruited as a crimebuster in Arkansas.”
  • iF Magazine printed a way cool Q&A with Kevin…Lots of familar material tous long-time web board visitors, but it’s always nice to see some of this stuff in one spot.You can read the piece (with some spiffy illustrations) on their site.
THIS ISSUE WE SNEAK A PEAK AT KEVIN SMITH’S VIDEO COLLECTION

By THE EDITORS

KEVIN SMITH

With CLERKS, his very first film, writer-director and occasional actor Kevin Smith altered the face of indie films. Mixing profanity and whacked out wisdom, CLERKS profiled a new kind of counter culture and in the process inspired a generation of low budget filmmaker wanna-bes. Since that grainy black and white comedy, Smith has had a bomb (MALLRATS) a dramatic comeback (CHASING AMY) and with his yet-to-be-released new film DOGMA, scandal and press of the most frenzied sort.

Now all married and (sort of) settled down in Red Bank, New Jersey he’s grown quite fond of his video collection. Here’s a detailed look at the man and his collection.

FIVE DESERT ISLAND FILMS:

1) JAWS
2) JFK
3) A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS
4) THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST
5) DO THE RIGHT THING
6) (optional ) A very, very hardcore porn tape (it is, after all, a desert island).

Favorite film you wish everyone would give a look:

“A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS. Maybe then people would get off my ass about how little I move the camera.”

Inspirational film you show your crew before shooting:

“Never done that. However, I try to watch one, if not all, of the above flicks before I start shooting.”

Film you wish would be released on video:

“A widescreen edition of BUCKAROO BANZAI.”

Film you’d like to burn:

“I don’t think I hate anything that much. But maybe I’d burn MALLRATS. That way, it’d come to be regarded as a lost classic, remembered only fondly by the hardest of hardcore fans. I’m the kind of guy that would burn down a village to save it.”

Film you’d run into a burning house to retrieve:

“RATS. I’m also really fickle.”

Film (or genre) prominent in your collection:

“Comedy.”

Film (or genre) not in your collection:

“Current teen flicks (your SCREAM’S, your SHE’S ALL THAT’S).”

How often you watch your own films:

“Almost never. I watch them when they first transfer them to video, and then rarely after that.”

Bonus: St. Marty Scorsese is busy today. Please help him by picking a film to preserve for the ages:

“CON AIR. The reason: so that future generations can take a gander at it, and learn how never to write a script.”

And with those insightful words, we bid you farewell. Catch ya next update!

Commentary

June 21st, 1999 @ 12:00 am | No Comments » | Scooped by Brad & Chris

  • Today marks a new update as well as a bit of a catch-up for us. We’ve got some new stories, again, most centered on Dogma, and we’re catching up with stuff over at Dogma RC later tonight, hopefully. The dream still is to make Dogma RC the only place for stories, but it still seems that folks are mainly checking News Askew without surfing over to RC, plus keeping both up to date with fresh material hasn’t been the easiest thing in the world. So, bear with us, as things get busy like this, we’re doing ourbest.