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Cinescape Magazine: Writer-Director Kevin Smith Reveals Misguided Efforts To Make New Superman Movie

Smith Says Producer Jon Peters Asked for a Gay R2-D2 and a Space Dog for Toy Licensing; The Writer/Director Doubts the New Movie Will be Finished in Time

For a Summer 1999 Release

CHICAGO, April 7 /PRNewswire/ — Cinescape Magazine reveals new details about the upcoming Warner Bros. Superman movie in its May/June issue. Talking with writer-director Kevin Smith (now filming Dogma in Pittsburgh), Cinescape Senior Editor Edward Gross offers a unique glimpse at the scribe’s behind-the-scenes battles with Superman producer Jon Peters as well as his version of the events that ultimately led to his dismissal from the project.

Among Smith’s comments:

“I was fascinated by my meeting with Jon Peters because this was the guy who produced Batman, and to hear him tell the story, you wouldn’t think director] Tim Burton meant anything in the making of that film.”

“[Peters said], ‘You know why you and me are going to get this project right and make a great movie? Because you and me understand Superman; we’re from the streets.’ I was like, ‘You were a hairdresser once. I’m from the suburbs. Neither of us are from the streets.'” “Peters went to the premiere [of Smith’s film Chasing Amy] in Los Angeles and the next day he said, ‘That gay black guy in your movie did an excellent job; that’s what we need in Superman Lives. We need that kind of attitude. Can’t El-Ron [the villain’s robot assistant] be gay? I want a gay R2-D2.’ I was thinking that this man is either the most progressive individual in films today or just a flat-out idiot. It’s a real thin line.”

“[Peters] was always saying that Brainiac [one of the villains] should give Luthor a space dog, something from that menagerie of his. He gives Luthor a dog, Luthor is afraid of the dog and the dog hates him. I’m like, ‘It doesn’t really lend to the story, why do you want that?’ Because I need a Chewie.’ This was during the time of Star Wars’ re-release and he said, ‘Chewie’s cuddly, man, you could make a toy out of him, so you’ve got to give me a dog.’ He’s forever influenced by the things he’s seen.”

Smith, who is best known for critically lauded independent films such as Clerks and Chasing Amy, was ousted from the Superman project shortly after turning in his script. Tim Burton took over the film, which is set to begin shooting this summer. Nicolas Cage will star as the Man of Steel.

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KEVIN SMITH

Sure, the soundtracks to his films Clerks, Mallrats and Chasing Amy have included Liz Phair, Girls Against Boys, Weezer and The Hangs-ups, but writer-director-actor Kevin Smith doesn’t consider himself a music buff. At his Red Bank, New Jersey, production offices, Smith confesses he takes as much ribbing from his friends for his love of all things ’80s as his onscreen alter ego, Silent Bob, takes about his girth. Smith is dieting to lose the extra pounds so those jokes might end, but he has no plans to give up the ’80s cheese.

Anyone who has seen your movies knows about your obsessions with underground comics, the Star Wars trilogy, mall culture and hockey. Where does music fit on that list?

Honestly, on a list of 100, music would probably be number 101. I’m not very musically inclined. My taste is actually quite deplorable; I take quite a lot of heat for it. I grew up surrounded by country music. When you’re a kid you have zero musical control. I had no ability to go out and buy a tape, so all I heard was country. And all my mother listened to was Barbara Streisand. That’s where the bad taste comes from.

Deplorable? Really? How bad are we talking?

You can’t really pin my taste down. It ranges from rap to bubblegum, from ’80s pop to the hardest of hardcore. The Chasing Amy soundtrack probably comes closest to my musical taste. Movie soundtracks have always been my favorite. They, too, are all over the board.

Were there any ’80s soundtracks that you especially liked?

I used to take a lot of heat from my friends for listening to the Nothing In Common and She’s Having A Baby soundtracks.

She’s Having A Baby! I remember buying that on vinyl back in high school. Bryan Ferry. Everything But the Girl, the Smiths cover by Kirsty MacColl, some solo Dave Wakeling…

Yeah, well, I’ve got it on vinyl, CD and tape.

There’s that great scene in Chasing Amy where Holden and Alyssa spend an afternoon exploring New York City and falling in love, all to that magnificent Hang-ups song. Have you had an afternoon like that, or a song that’s encapsulated a relationship so completely?

There is one terribly embarrassing theme song–Atlantic Starr’s “Always.” It was just one of those secrets [my girlfriend and I] shared. I still can’t hear that song without thinking of that time. Then there was that Human League song–“You’re Only Human”–that was so huge on the radio when another girlfriend cheated on me. I was working in a restaurant as a busboy. The song would come on, and I’d have to go home. I couldn’t bus; I was too depressed. Music’s real sensory like that–it takes you right back. I always wondered why people listen to oldies. Now I’m starting to understand. And our oldies are just getting old.

Exactly. I just rented Grosse Pointe Blank and Romy and Michelle’s High School Reunion, and it was oddly disturbing to hear my high-school favorites as the nostalgic backdrop for movies about 10-year reunions.

I know. Grosse Pointe Blank, I loved half of those songs. The others were too hip for me. I loved the one-hit wonders. When they started putting out those ’80s compilations, it was like heaven for me. I didn’t have to buy the entire Thomas Dolby album, but I could get “she Blinded Me With Science.” Or [Dexy’s Midnight Runners’] “Come On Eileen,” [‘Til Tuesday’s] “Voices Carry.” I was a child of radio.

So what was it about ’80s rap that appealed to a kid from suburban New Jersey?

I guess you get to live vicariously through rap. It appeals to the wannabe in me. Those were halcyon days for rap–Run-D.M.C., LL Cool J, Public Enemy, Schoolly D. I liked the boasting. Now it’s all gangsta and violent. One of my first concerts was the Def Jam tour with Public Enemy. It was quite an experience. Here we were from the lily-white New Jersey suburbs, surrounded by an audience we only saw on TV. It was kind of neat. Everyone focused on the music. My friend had a chain snatched off. We just thought, “It’s official. We’ve arrived.”

It’s certainly nice to see other folks out there who can appreciate that fine 80’s music. We thought we were getting old there for a sec…Wait a minute…I guess we are…Oh well. There’ll always be a special place in our hearts for that wacky decade.